Friday, September 05, 2025

Ben Shapiro Being Stupid About Marx

Shapiro Explaining Critical Race Theory Correctly Before Criticizing It

I have not actually read Shapiro's Lions and Scavengers" The True Story of America (and Her Critics). I rely on a screenshot in a tweet from Matt McManus.

The above video shows that Shapiro recognizes that you should accurately set out a position before criticizing it. He also gets to boast about his law degree. (Those wanting to laugh at Shapiro probably prefer this interview with Andrew Neil on the BBC.) Anyways, here is a Shapiro take on Karl Marx:

"Marx heavily relied on the labor theory of value. He posited that if you could calculate the value of anything objectively, then anything beyond that value had to be a surplus - an unnecessary bit of profiteering added by the person selling a good, product, or service. So, if the labor value of a potato was, say, $2 - the labor put into growing the potato, harvesting it, and selling it to the grocer - and the grocer sold it for $3 to an end customer, the grocer was adding on an unfair surcharge of $1, thus increasing the price falsely so as to extract profit. Marx said the world could be made fairer and better by preventing the grocer from extracting profit, thus lowering prices and making potatoes more affordable. The grocer was actually exploiting his customers when he 'earned' a profit.

The answer, said Marx, was to set prices from the top down. Simply set the price of potatoes at $2, remove the grocer’s evil profit, and make everything more plentiful and cheaper." – Ben Shapiro. Lions & Scavengers: The Tue Story of America.

The above is so far from anything Marx wrote that I do not think any comment is needed. Nevertheless, I will go on.

Marx does not explain profits as the result of a seller tacking a surcharge on the price of a commodity, where that price is the labor value of the commodity. In fact, he specifically rejects that idea.

For purposes of exposition, Marx assumes, in volume 1 of Cqpital, that prices tend towards labor values, under the capitalist mode of production. He wants to explain the origin of profit under the assumption that prices are 'fair' that many pro-capitalists and his predecessors put forth shortly before.

Surplus value, the source of profits, are obtained by capitalists not paying out the full value added by labor as wages to workers. The distinction between labor-power and labor is central to Marx's explanation. Labor-power is the ability to work under the direction of the agents of capital.

The suggestion that Marx thinks profit is only obtained by the merchant selling a commodity to the consumer is another absurdity. For Marx, surplus value is obtained at every step of production. The farmers hiring workers to plant, grow, and harvest potatoes exploits their workers. Shapiro can only be joking when he suggests that Marx thinks merchants exploit customers.

The final bit of silliness I want to highlight is that Marx argues a post-capitalist economy should set prices top-down to labor values. Marx is descriptive in Capital. He does not provide a blueprint for post-capitalist societies. He mocks the idea in the afterword to the second German edition of volume 1. In The Poverty of Philosophy, he specifically attacks Prodhon's idea of setting prices to labor values. Anarchists might argue that Marx is inconsistent and draws on Proudhon's ideas in his letter, Critique of the Gotha Programme. But any use of labor values in socialism differs from Marx's theory in Capital. Furthermore, many would argue that Marx's concept of value does not apply to communism, for example.

Apparently, Shapiro has been spouting nonsense about Karl Marx for years. Ben Burgis once noticed.

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