Marx Did Not Care About Prices

Richard Wolff Responding To A Question On The Transformation Problem

The marginal revolution of the 1870s not only changed the answers. It also changed the questions. Neither the classical economists nor Karl Marx were studying the allocation of scarce resources among alternate uses.

The dynamic vision of classical political economy was about the wealth of nations, and the accumulation of capital. The latter concern meant classical political economists cared about distribution. They treated workers as consuming their wages, the landed gentry as spending their income on luxuries, and capitalists as investing their income back into growing their wealth. The classical political economists found they needed to know something about value or prices to pursue their main concerns. The theory of value was an unavoidable complication.

At one point, David Ricardo deplored the need for this complication:

"...After all[,] the great questions of Rent, Wages, and Profits must be explained by the proportions in which the whole produce is divided between landlords, capitalists, and labourers, and which are not essentially connected with the doctrine of value...

...The greater the portion of the result of labour that is given to the labourer, the smaller must be the rate of profits, and vice versa. Now this portion must essentially depend on the facility of producing the necessaries of the labourer - if the facility be great, a small proportion of any commodity, the result of capital and labour, will be sufficient to furnish the labourer with necessaries, and consequently profits will be high." -- David Ricardo, letter to McCulloch, 13 June 1820

Karl Marx took over this problem, to a considerable extent. In 1904, Hilferding tried to explain:

"In striking contrast with Böhm-Bawerk, Marx looks upon the theory of value, not as the means for ascertaining prices, but as the means for discovering the laws of motion of capitalist society." -- Rudolf Hilferding, Böhm-Bawerk's Criticism of Marx, Chapter 1: Value as an economic category

Joan Robinson had a low opinion of Marx's labor theory of value. But she was very clear that Marx's point was not about prices:

"Marshall did something much more effective than changing the answer. He changed the question. For Ricardo the Theory of Value was a means of studying the distribution of total output between wages, rent and profit, each considered as a whole. This is a big question. Marshall turned the meaning of Value into a little question: Why does an egg cost more than a cup of tea? It may be a small question but it is a very difficult and complicated one. It takes a lot of time and algebra to work out the theory of it. So it kept all Marshall's pupils preoccupied for fifty years. They had no time to think about the big question, or even to remember that there was a big question, because they had to keep their noses right down to the grindstone, working out the theory of the price of a cup of tea." -- Joan Robinson, 1953, An open letter from a Keynesian to a Marxist

I conclude with a bit from Richard Wolff, above:

"Marx's labor theory of value... has more to do with this notion of how labor is allocated in a society... Marx was not - let me put it another way. When I teach in the American university system, we begin by assuming all students want to understand the great mystery of economics which is why is the price of something what it is. Why is the price of a hamburger $5 and the price of a Mercedes much more than that? And we begin. That's very nice. It's perfectly good to make an economics built of that question. I'm going to now exaggerate to make my point. Marx wasn't interested in that, and I'm not either. I got many more interesting things I want to understand about this economy than why the prices of things are what they are. I understand if you're a capitalist you're very concerned about prices, but if you’re somebody else, you might have all sorts - you might be interested, but you have much more higher priority subjects... Marx is coming at it with a different agenda. And so he starts in a different place and takes it in a different way." -- Richard Wolff

Marx was interested in how can there be a return to ownership, at all, in a competitive market economy.